Warlock vs Dragon Soul [4.3 GUIDE]

[Drasp]

Hello, I just watched your ''Topping meters as Demonology Guide '' Video, and I'm having some problems, The macros and gear changing is all going fine, but the major problem is my trinket ICD, I'm currently using the Heroic Insignia and WoB On my normal set, so when I'm switching back to my normal gear after poping Meta im suffering from a huge ICD from the Insignia, i've had no luck with a heroic Cunning drop, and using the Heroic insignia is a waste of a 110 seconds of a fight because ICDS start when I switch the trinkets, would it be more beneficial to use the Moonwell Chalice in this condition, or not use the gear switching at all and keep the Insignia 3.1k haste proc for the opening burst and a better RNG for my second Meta cooldown.

[Sparkuggz]

Hey Sparkuggz, I have a question. I'm currently Affliction/Destro spec, but I seem to be really bad at playing destro, even with 95%+ ISF uptime etc. So I was wondering if Demonology would be viable as an off spec? What would I need to reforge into? http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...irata/advanced is my armory.
Currently doing HC progression but feel Affliction would be more useful anyway... and I really want to try out the mastery gear swapping thing which you uploaded a video of recently.

It's hard to play demonology unless you reforge fully mastery, its just not as good with haste setup. Affliction is fine for HC spine at this stage, since demonlogy isn't as good anymore due to the fast lifts of tendons.

Hello, I just watched your ''Topping meters as Demonology Guide '' Video, and I'm having some problems, The macros and gear changing is all going fine, but the major problem is my trinket ICD, I'm currently using the Heroic Insignia and WoB On my normal set, so when I'm switching back to my normal gear after poping Meta im suffering from a huge ICD from the Insignia, i've had no luck with a heroic Cunning drop, and using the Heroic insignia is a waste of a 110 seconds of a fight because ICDS start when I switch the trinkets, would it be more beneficial to use the Moonwell Chalice in this condition, or not use the gear switching at all and keep the Insignia 3.1k haste proc for the opening burst and a better RNG for my second Meta cooldown.

Yea, don't use IOTCM switching, as every trinket you switch comes on ICD. If you have IOTCM, just use MWC as 2nd trinket. If you dont have IOTCM you can use 2x mastery, as WOU + Cunning won't really be affected by the ICD.

Some people have tested the gear swap with IOTCM + WOU (MWC) and others go with MWC + Mastery trinket and go Cunning + WoU. On ultraxion, the good thing about IOTCM is the haste proc for your doomguard, giving you that extra burst on the start of the fight.

[Horrorcosmic]

Sparkuggz:

I'm having alittle problem with my group on heroic spine and madness, On Heroic Madness i did everything your guide has said and it really helped, my damage went through the roof but they said that i'm fudging the meters because i'm dotting everything and it doesn't count, so now i'm being sat out all the time because i can't meet the damage unless i do dot a few more targets, and i wasn't even dotting up everything i was only keep dots going on 2 of the tentacles, the corruption, and the bolt parasite when it popped, saving my soul swap for the bolt and everything and i went from around 5th place in dmg to 2-1st, but i don't now what to tell my group.

Basically the same thing on madness happens on spine, i'm constantly being sat out on spine because of my dmg i did go demo, i reforged full mastery and everything was looking good, after reading your guide i got in there and we downed heroic spine with no problems but now they are being alittle picky and started to sit me out cuz my damage is still farely low, i'm not sure what i can do to boost it anymore than i have.

As for my damage on Tendons its usually 1 million first lift 1.7 million kill, that was from the last run which ended horribly, i was the only range so nobody other than the healers benefited from the Demonic Pact.

[Sparkuggz]

Sparkuggz:

I'm having alittle problem with my group on heroic spine and madness, On Heroic Madness i did everything your guide has said and it really helped, my damage went through the roof but they said that i'm fudging the meters because i'm dotting everything and it doesn't count, so now i'm being sat out all the time because i can't meet the damage unless i do dot a few more targets, and i wasn't even dotting up everything i was only keep dots going on 2 of the tentacles, the corruption, and the bolt parasite when it popped, saving my soul swap for the bolt and everything and i went from around 5th place in dmg to 2-1st, but i don't now what to tell my group.

Basically the same thing on madness happens on spine, i'm constantly being sat out on spine because of my dmg i did go demo, i reforged full mastery and everything was looking good, after reading your guide i got in there and we downed heroic spine with no problems but now they are being alittle picky and started to sit me out cuz my damage is still farely low, i'm not sure what i can do to boost it anymore than i have.

As for my damage on Tendons its usually 1 million first lift 1.7 million kill, that was from the last run which ended horribly, i was the only range so nobody other than the healers benefited from the Demonic Pact.

Well if they expect you to keep up with rogue, hunters and mages on single target damage without multi dotting they are dumb fucks. Affliction works by multi dotting, single target damage is somewhat horrible. You do not have burst, switching targets often lowers your damage ( if the previous one dies ). Issue with madness is that with the 30% buff (remember this guide is for 0%) everything dies too fast, and multi dots sometimes make more harm then do good on madness (things drop too low). You will never be top on damage meters on madness unless you can somewhat accelerate multi dotting. Going destruction might be better if they really want to be weird with tactics.

Spine though, it's pretty bad overall with 30% buff. Affliction can do somewhat stable damage, i dont see why you would need to sit out on farm. It's rather 'easy' to make the DPS now a days. It seems like your leaders are somewhat clueless to how casters and sp/moonkin/warlocks work.

Your damage on tendons was fine, 1,7 mil is plenty from you on 1 full tendon.

[Horrorcosmic]

That is exactly what i told them, i had a long discussion with them just before posting that thread, i didn't even know about the whole madness thing, i thought i was doing my job but apparently they viewed as cheating or something, i guess i can go destruction, they seem to have this mindset that destruction is god mode for us even though its only like 400 dps more than affliction (last time i saw the theorycrafting, may have changed now).

I honestly have no idea how to convince them otherwise, as far as The Madness fight goes i'm stumped i don't know how to please these people.

For spine i still have a few things to try out, i got a macro from an mmo-champion thread that you actually took part in and it worked for awhile but then started to get stuck in the sequence so i'm going to rewrite it and see if that helps, i'm also going to try MWC over BW, one thing i'm not fully clear on is our spell priority on spine, right now i'm doing BoA, immo, corruption, hog, SFlame, then incinerate spam, while popping all CD's using felstorm then switching to felhunter as soon as storm ends, with the 30% nerf has that changed, i commented about using your guide to my group and there only retaliation was it was ment for pre-nerf, so i'm wondering is there something i change now that the nerf is implemented that i don't see? or will destro yield better numbers?

Really i never had this problem with the guild until we started heroic Dragon soul, and i'm the only raiding warlock in the guild, so i really have no one getting my back or to compare.

As far as the damage on spine, they are comparing me to classes like hunters and druids, granted last attempt our bloods tank which was a druid out dps me on the tendons but he was pushing 2million per lift, i can only imagine it had to be some sort of proc (i'm no expert on druids) but they just say i'm lowest dps in a group that usually runs a mage, ret pally, boomkin , hunter or shadow priest, and a death knight.

[Bude]

Hey Sparkuggz, I have a few questions. Our guild tried 25man last night (we usually do 2x 10m) and it was really easy, but I'm interested in increasing DPS further. I'm playing Affliction for the whole of DS as my Destruction is behind (even on single target).
On Madness, do I use my Doomguard with prepot at start? Or save it for when boss is using Cataclysm?

[Sparkuggz]

Hey Sparkuggz, I have a few questions. Our guild tried 25man last night (we usually do 2x 10m) and it was really easy, but I'm interested in increasing DPS further. I'm playing Affliction for the whole of DS as my Destruction is behind (even on single target).
On Madness, do I use my Doomguard with prepot at start? Or save it for when boss is using Cataclysm?

Puh, sorry for the late reply, but i dont really bother with that fight since it doesnt matter (or any DS fights anymore!). Just time 2x DG's for the full fight!