Sup,
I heard something about touch of chaos being bugged abit as demon if u are using a wand wich delays ur global cooldown. Is this true? do someone know anything about this thing?
Thank you for the answer.
Sup,
I heard something about touch of chaos being bugged abit as demon if u are using a wand wich delays ur global cooldown. Is this true? do someone know anything about this thing?
Thank you for the answer.
I've seen a couple questions about trinkets and AskMrRobot. I use AskMrRobot with SimulationCraft to answer all my gear needs, including trinkets (often comparing Trinket A to Trinket B).
So, I'm gonna post a bit of a monster here in the hopes that it will help people figure out how to use Simcraft and answer some gear needs on their own. I love input from other locks like Sparkuggz and Varia, but if you can figure it out on your own, you're more confident about your setup, you get an answer faster, and you can have fun putzing around with different gear/reforging setups.
As far as using AskMrRobot on it's own, it's great for checking gear, but the default stat weights aren't your stat weights. Those weights can be WAY off from what you need. Also, I don't trust it for trinkets or weapons with a proc. That's why I use Simcraft for my stat weights, MrRobot for me gear suggestions, and then verify MrRobot is correct by simming it's results.
SimulationCraft
- Go to SimulationCraft.org and download the latest Sim.
- Open the Sim (it's the SimulationCraft.exe file in the folder), click the Options tab and set the following options:
- Globals > Iterations set to 10,0000
- Buff/Debuffs > Have all buff/debuffs active (or adjust for your raid environment)
- Scaling > check Analyze Intellect, Spell Power, Expertise Rating, Hit Rating, Crit Rating, Haste Rating, Mastery Rating
- Plots > check Plot DPS per Intellect, Spellpower, Hit Rating, Crit Rating, Haste Rating, Mastery Rating
- Reforge Plots > I leave these empty (they add a bunch of parse time and I don't use them)
- Click the Import tab. This gives you the Battle.net website. Enter your character name in the site's search bar, find your character, load their Battle.net page, and click Import.
- By clicking Import, Simcraft will load your character as it finds it on Battle.net. That means whatever gear, talents, or glyphs you had active last time you logged out will be what simcraft uses. If that's what you wanted, you can jump to step 5. If not, you will need to log in to WoW and make whatever changes you want and log back out.
If you're slacking at work and can't log in, you can still modify your talents. Find the line similar to talents=http://us.battle.net/wow/en/tool/talent-calculator#Va!222120 in your simulation text, follow the URL, make the talent changes, and paste the new URL into the simcraft text. Gear and glyphs are more difficult and I recommend just logging in/out.- Simcraft will load your character and take you to the Simulate tab. The text on this page may look like garbage to you, but that's OK. Just click Simulate at the bottom and wait (it may take awhile depending on your PC...I'm generally around 5 minutes a parse).
When it's done, you'll see lots of useful information. At the top it will say your DPS. Slightly below that are your Scale Factors (Stat Weights).
AskMrRobot
- Now, go to AskMrRobot and load your character (I recommend creating an account so you can save your stat weights and stuff).
- Once loaded, click Edit Weights and enter your stat weights from Simcraft.
- Be sure to set a Soft Cap for haste of .1, to get over 10% haste (I use .206 to get over a 2nd plateau of 20%, feel free argue for/against that). And make sure your pre-cap haste weight (the box on the left) is higher than your other stats so MrRobot knows you want to hit the haste cap before anything else. You can set your soft capped weight to whatever your Simcraft says (perhaps lower than mastery, mine is usually higher though).
- If you want to be hit capped, inflate your hit weight.
- Save your Stat Weights to return to the regular AskMrRobot page.
- In the middle of the page is an Optimized tab. When you click that, it will show you what MrRobot suggests for gems/enchants/reforging based on your supplied stat weights.
Now here's the cool part.
AskMrRobot and SimulationCraft working together
- Click Export on the right side of the page, while still having Optimized selected. Click SimulationCraft File. It will give you the simcraft "code" so you can import this set of gear/gems/enchants/reforges into simcraft. I recommend just highlighting the gear information and copying it.
- Now, go back to Simcraft and click the Simulate tab. Scroll towards the bottom and highlight the gear section (it will look similar to what you just copied), and paste your text from MrRobot.
- Now you can re-Simulate and see if what MrRobot suggested is a DPS improvement. I use this to fine-tune my gear settings before a raid night.
I also use it to compare trinkets. You can go back into MrRobot, and select a trinket or other piece of gear. Then export that gear set and re-sim it. The guys that maintain simcraft generally have those trinket procs simmed correctly, so you can tell if Trinket A is better than Trinket B.
It's how I'm confident that the Zen Alchemist Stone is better than the Flashfrozen Resin Globule, even though it's a lower item level.
Simcraft may seem daunting, but it's pretty simple once you get the basics down. I hope this helps!
The gems are close at around 480 ILVL u get nearly same value from both 320 mastery vs 160 int.Originally Posted by Nomnom
About the proccing of dots and when to reapply, im not 100% sure whats the _best_ way to do it. Some people are using Fel Flame to get them updated fast, some are working with using a soul shard for it (doubt its worth it) but i think the logical thing would be to use a fel flame to reupdate them and then hardcast new ones before the procs are about to run out, but i have no valid math done to confirm if this is a loss or not.
When you have procs, try to watch how long is left on your dots and you need to think about wanting to maximize having them up. Remember that for example if you have a proc coming up you will prolly have another one soon too, so you should try to track ICD of your stuff. It will ofcourse be optimal to update ur dots fast (but cant really waste UA cast time, corr and agony GCD on this > Plus you want to renew them before they expire for maximum uptime. Think thats some of the things that will get 100% figured out coming months what exactly to deal with in this situation as its a bit complicated depending on a lot of variables.
Yes, using wand in demonology will not make you auto attack melee hits, thus resulting in a DPS loss. You don't want to use wand at this moment, but hopefully its fixed soon.Sup,
I heard something about touch of chaos being bugged abit as demon if u are using a wand wich delays ur global cooldown. Is this true? do someone know anything about this thing?
Thank you for the answer.
@ Fezzik Nice Guide ; )!
Hey Sparkuggz,
i have some question regarding the different haste caps. For example i compare my elegon fight of last and id and this id.
Here are the WoL Logs:
Last ID: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/k...?s=4288&e=4821
This ID: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=4374&e=4870
Last ID i played only with 30xx haste for the extra Agony tick and rest in full mastery. This ID i played with 4717 Haste. As u see in Logs, the fight of this ID was even shorter then last one, but i still got the same dps... Can u explain that? Thought Dps would increase when i reach the new haste cap for the extra UA/Corruption Ticks, but nothing...
Thanks Spark! That what's I thought. If you wanna play Affliction perfectly this will give you some many headaches.
I'm sure 60-70% of people don't look at proc's and they just do normal rotation, without refreshing dots, and 50% of them get ranked.
From combat logs, not many warlocks are using Felflame.
Last edited by Nomnom; 31st October 2012 at 10:36.
You need to remember when simulationcraft tool calculates your DPS it takes thousand of tries and average out your DPS. RNG is involved, and breaking haste points can result in a 500-1,5k DPS increase in most cases. That's not something you will notice from one week to the other just like that, considering you might have played worse, you might have gotten unlucky with RNG, you might not have gotten shards at the right time etc etc. It's nearly impossible to reforge an item and tell whats best when played by a human. It's often times just a "gut feeling" you have to take into consideration when you work with these kind of things.
This line of thinking is a very common mistake, both inside of WoW and outside it, because we seem to be wired to think this way.
If you flipped a coin once, and it landed on heads, does that tell you "this coin always lands on heads?" What if you flipped a coin and it landed on heads 5 times in a row? That might be enough to get you to think that "this is a special coin, it only lands on heads."
But you can't make conclusive results off of a small sample size (a small number of attempts). If you flip the coin 100 times, the odds of you getting heads 100 times are extremely low. You're going to be closer to 50 heads and 50 tails, maybe it will be 40 heads and 60 tails, but it will be close to 50/50. If you flipped it 1000 times, you'll be very close to the projected results for the coin of 50% heads, 50% tails. The more flips you do, the higher the chances are that you'll see 50/50.
Well, it's the same thing with projecting out your DPS, except there's a hell of a lot more variables creating a hell of a lot of potential outcomes.
That's why using simcraft is important. It takes that coin and flips it over 10,000 times. And when it's done, as long as you are only changing one variable at a time, you can say "OK, in a 5 minute, standstill and DPS fight, that change improves (or hurts) my DPS."
The AskMrRobot devs claim that they use SimCraft to determine optimal reforging/gemming. Why, then, do people advocate using Simcraft themselves instead of just using what AMR says?
Hi!
I need a little help in aff, because i never did it before.
I was always a des. lock therefor i ve mainly des. gear. My guild adviced to go aff, because des. is very low on dps.
Now my problems are, that if im hit capped, i cant get haste cap with high mastery, if not is it worth to try it like that until i get better aff gear?
And i ve a few other questions too. I ve read a lot of about aff, but i still have white spots.
So what about soul swaping and haunting? If i run out of soul shards what should i do? Or do i ve to run out of it? The problem is that its written everywere to keep up all DoT-s with haunt. Do you use Fel Flame for this?
I put my character in, maybe you can see something what i could not. :)
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Tyraen/simple
Thank you for helping!
Last edited by Tyraen; 2nd November 2012 at 01:51.
@Fezzik: Very nice post mate, helped me a lot, but can you try to explain what you mean by:
"Be sure to set a Soft Cap for haste of .1, to get over 10% haste (I use .206 to get over a 2nd plateau of 20%, feel free argue for/against that). And make sure your pre-cap haste weight (the box on the left) is higher than your other stats so MrRobot knows you want to hit the haste cap before anything else. You can set your soft capped weight to whatever your Simcraft says (perhaps lower than mastery, mine is usually higher though)."
What exactly am I supposed to put in?
EDIT: Also, how come a lot of warlock go for 13-14% hit instead of 15%?
Last edited by Soytza; 2nd November 2012 at 11:11.
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